aye, thats why I would prefer a G-3 or a M-16 instead of a MP5 in real combat.

:=) couldn´t agree with you more :=)

And Blyr, the post was about rifle´s, assult even, but anyway.
Shotguns are best used indoors, with small narrow turns and short corridors ( hope i spelled that right )

you betcha.

you should see my awesome bolt action full auto shotgun sniper rifle.

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I don't agree.

The single use shotguns has in any army aspect, is blowing in doors when doing "house cleaning".

Indoors, in buildings, vs personnel, a H&K MP5 with a Maglite or similar is preferred by virtually any western AT and special unit.

Its light, can be hung around ur neck and will thus be at ur chest so you can climb/jump/fastrope and so forth, its accurate at short ranges, you can use the Maglite as aim in darkness (and to "flash" enemies), you can clip two magazines together, and it has 3-shot burst capability, which is ideal, plus it will penetrate fragmentation armor at short ranges.

Also I'm not sure how to explain it in english, but you can have a bullet "ready" in the chamber, which will go off just by pulling the trigger without the moving peice having to go back and forward again.

hmm...yes ofc...there´s alot of weapons better used indoors then a shotgun, what ever shotgun you use.

But, my point was from the use of a shotgun.
THE SHOTGUN is better used indoors then outdoors :)

and that you would agree on, right ?
:yes:

i'm wondering when someone will make a practical laser rifle

sure would save us a lot of bullets:rolleyes:
:yes:

and ja, i agree with you on the shotguns+indoors thingie you'd have to be stupid not to ERHEM

blyr
<pronounced 'Bly-er think like a pirate would pronounce it. Blyer. Blier. Blyr. not blur not blir. Bly-er.>

ok ok i think we got that sorted out a long time ago Bly-Er
and about the bullet versus energy hmm
pretty far fetched right now i think
:yes:

I would agree on that yes! :D

nice that we can agree with something.
Right now i am agreeing to myself that it is better to sit here then watching " miss Sweden beaty contest " on tv
:rolleyes:

Wtf, are you gay IRL? :D

my boyfriend said that i wasn´t when we where playing doctor in bed together, he and i

:D

OK! Stop! :dead:

i was just joking the first time :=)
and i am not gay, tho i don´t see the problem if someone is. i don´t discriminate people for their choices, whatever they may be. Even the stupid ones.
And even the stupid people.

I mean, i can´t blame them for stupid, they don´t even know that they are...but now we going off th e subject...

Pls close this darn thread. Not much more to discuss about assult rifles :=)

the use of shotguns nowadays mainly is for counter terrorist missions in civilian areas, they don t want a rifle bullet travelling a mile down the road and maybe hitting some civilian. And ofc for hunting/sport they are teh best hunting weapon of all time.

I seriously doubt any CT unit would use a shotgun to avoid bullets travelling too far. First of all most CT units usually hit what they shoot at, and secondly it would be too big a disadvantage.

Agree, a bullet from a MP5 fx doesnt travel that far. Assualt rifles with 7.92mm caliber shots trough houses though, but they are not ideal in house-to-house fighting, specially if the houses are made of concrete or something similar.

agreed.:yes:

also, this post IS getting long. :yes:

Blyr.




siggy!

im just quoting the discovery channel :P

so go argue with them