Legion: Nazi Symbolism

[Gravitas]

Originally Posted by Crytical

Now, before I say anything, bear in mind that I'm not "taking sides in this ..erm..discussion".

Honestly, if you take away any fore-knowledge of our Guilds history or beliefes or basis, I can see where the OP actually might feel the need to ask the question he did. To be completely honest, I thought it was a Nazi symbol clevery adapted when I first joined Legion. Of course, before I made myself to look a bit foolish, I did a bit of research and discovered the true basis of this Guild. Needless to say, I was absolutely proud of who Legion were and what they represented, and terrifically glad that my fears were unfounded.

But again, like I stated earlier, I can see where the OP might have gotten the notion, and my kudos to him for having that large set of testicles he has to ask the possibly-offensive question he did.

<3

-Angel

Thank you Crytical. This is how I hoped my question would be embraced by the community. And even if I did research the eagle symbol to a great degree, there would remain no conclusive information to tell me how exactly this specific party means to use this symbol without asking.

[lokken]

Originally Posted by Gravitas

Thank you Crytical. This is how I hoped my question would be embraced by the community. And even if I did research the eagle symbol to a great degree, there would remain no conclusive information to tell me how exactly this specific party means to use this symbol without asking.

The symbol aside, did you read those huge fuckoff words The Legion and the motto Victuri Te Salutant before you posted? Did you notice that you posted on a forum known as the "colosseum"? Did the thought "ANCIENT ROME" not quite frankly drop out of the sky and smack you in the face like stone cold steve austin wielding a 2x4? Then to add insult to injury, you come onto a forum on the internet expecting not to be flamed for such stupidity and to cap it off for the irony of all ironies you call yourself "Gravitas".

All I want to know is how you are going to beat this fantastic feat of stupidity.

[Gravitas]

Originally Posted by lokken

The symbol aside, did you read those huge fuckoff words The Legion and the motto Victuri Te Salutant before you posted? Did you notice that you posted on a forum known as the "colosseum"? Did the thought "ANCIENT ROME" not quite frankly drop out of the sky and smack you in the face like stone cold steve austin wielding a 2x4? Then to add insult to injury, you come onto a forum on the internet expecting not to be flamed for such stupidity and to cap it off for the irony of all ironies you call yourself "Gravitas".

All I want to know is how you are going to beat this fantastic feat of stupidity.

Nothing's as final as a direct address.

[lokken]

Originally Posted by Gravitas

Nothing's as final as a direct address.

In an ancient Roman context, the word gravitas communicated a sense of dignity, seriousness, and duty. Gravitas is one of the several virtues that Ancient Roman society expected men to possess, along with pietas and dignitas.

[Relifex]

Just one thing though if you look at the topic you write "Legion: Nazi symbolism" do you see a question mark in there? That alone kinda constate what you were after.

[Relifex]

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[Zjozz]

Originally Posted by Relifex

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i was waiting for that one hahaha

[Rids]

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[Anunnak]

Just in case you apply

VETO

[Toxi]

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[icarus]

Starting to look like a random mannoroth forums thread

[Toxi]

Personally i just dont see how one can come to a forum to say something about our guild and nazi symbolism and expect a rational non offended responce heh.




Um especially a ration responce from Legion...

[Tiddy]

OK, a serious post (sorta) and then I'll stop spamming this thread.


Bro, did you even consider that maybe there are people in this community that hate what Nazi Germany stood for just as much as you do? Do you think Jewish people are the only ones that have a right to be 'overly' offended by such things?

The majority if this guild, and community is European. WW2 impacted their way of life a helluvalot more than it did Canada, or even the USA for that matter. The sad part isnt that you asked the question... well yes it is, but the saddest part is you are trying to defend your question as if it was the correct thing to do just because you are Jewish. You, sir, were not in the right... not even close.

There are people here that get more offended by this topic than you do, so just because you are Jewish doesnt give you the right to accuse them of being Nazis, which is basically wtf you did. You do realize this right? You not only indirectly accused the members of the WoW guild, but every single member of this gaming community of being a Nazi. You sir, are an egocentric maggot eating fucktard, and if you were my neighbor I'd kill your fucking dog.

All in all, you are probably a troll. If not, you are one thick headed mother fucker.

[Gravitas]

Originally Posted by Tiddy

OK, a serious post (sorta) and then I'll stop spamming this thread.


Bro, did you even consider that maybe there are people in this community that hate what Nazi Germany stood for just as much as you do? Do you think Jewish people are the only ones that have a right to be 'overly' offended by such things?

The majority if this guild, and community is European. WW2 impacted their way of life a helluvalot more than it did Canada, or even the USA for that matter. The sad part isnt that you asked the question... well yes it is, but the saddest part is you are trying to defend your question as if it was the correct thing to do just because you are Jewish. You, sir, were not in the right... not even close.

There are people here that get more offended by this topic than you do, so just because you are Jewish doesnt give you the right to accuse them of being Nazis, which is basically wtf you did. You do realize this right? You not only indirectly accused the members of the WoW guild, but every single member of this gaming community of being a Nazi. You sir, are an egocentric maggot eating fucktard, and if you were my neighbor I'd kill your fucking dog.

All in all, you are probably a troll. If not, you are one thick headed mother fucker.

Location: Alabama, USA

I could say more, but I won't waste my energy.

[Tiddy]

Originally Posted by Gravitas

I could say more, but I won't waste my energy.

Oh say more, please. Assume shit about me just as you did Legion... PLEASE. Make a bigger retard out of yourself... PLEASE! You dont know what you're getting yourself into, ya Sluggette wannabe.

[Agamemnon]

This part of Tiddys post was pretty to the point, too bad you didn't bother responding to it outside of the ad hominem, but I guess the rule of not using those only applies to others?

Originally Posted by Tiddy

Bro, did you even consider that maybe there are people in this community that hate what Nazi Germany stood for just as much as you do? Do you think Jewish people are the only ones that have a right to be 'overly' offended by such things?

The majority if this guild, and community is European. WW2 impacted their way of life a helluvalot more than it did Canada, or even the USA for that matter. The sad part isnt that you asked the question... well yes it is, but the saddest part is you are trying to defend your question as if it was the correct thing to do just because you are Jewish. You, sir, were not in the right... not even close.

There are people here that get more offended by this topic than you do, so just because you are Jewish doesnt give you the right to accuse them of being Nazis, which is basically wtf you did. You do realize this right? You not only indirectly accused the members of the WoW guild, but every single member of this gaming community of being a Nazi.

And yeah, for the record, people were killed by nazis where I live, and where I am now, on an easter holliday, they occupied a fairly huge arms factory. This fact doesn't make me jump at someones throat for being a nazi if he tilts his hand a bit too much when he waves at a friend he passes on the street.

[Gravitas]

This part of Tiddys post was pretty to the point, too bad you didn't bother responding to it outside of the ad hominem, but I guess the rule of not using those only applies to others?

As I already pointed out, I began indulging in them after many of you sufficiently introduced me. I'm not going to sit here defenseless while my personal character is being attacked.

I will address Tiddy's post, however, just to settle your burning inquiry of why it was conceived by a half-wit.

Bro, did you even consider that maybe there are people in this community that hate what Nazi Germany stood for just as much as you do? Do you think Jewish people are the only ones that have a right to be 'overly' offended by such things?

I did consider it; hence the preemptive apology (preemptive should be a word you sagely Alabamans know well.)

And I knew that as soon as I mentioned my Jewish heritage, at least one person would start cramming words into my mouth. If you backtrack, my specific language nowhere states or implies exclusivity.

The majority if this guild, and community is European. WW2 impacted their way of life a helluvalot more than it did Canada, or even the USA for that matter. The sad part isnt that you asked the question... well yes it is, but the saddest part is you are trying to defend your question as if it was the correct thing to do just because you are Jewish. You, sir, were not in the right... not even close.

Granted, WW2 impacted Europe more than the Americas. Granted, my grandfather is Polish and was interned in concentration camps in Germany and Poland, and loved his home country, and my father dutch, that Europe's plight was thus certainly not in any way related to me. Granted, I'm Jewish--but just because our creed was almost hunted to extinction cleary doesn't entitle us to become alarmed by any potential neo-fascism. Granted, none of us were even alive during Hitler's regime, so all your claims are of even less relevance than mine if your religion/ethnicity was not persecuted in that era.

I can grant you a lot of things: your foolishness, for example.

There are people here that get more offended by this topic than you do, so just because you are Jewish doesnt give you the right to accuse them of being Nazis, which is basically wtf you did. You do realize this right? You not only indirectly accused the members of the WoW guild, but every single member of this gaming community of being a Nazi.

No, I accused no one. I questioned, from a suspicion. If I wanted to accuse VtS of harbouring nazis, I would have flat-out done so.

Back to Jackass B:

And yeah, for the record, people were killed by nazis where I live, and where I am now, on an easter holliday, they occupied a fairly huge arms factory. This fact doesn't make me jump at someones throat for being a nazi if he tilts his hand a bit too much when he waves at a friend he passes on the street.

Good for you. If you're not black, or a Gypsy, or Jewish, or mentally handicapped, or a Saracen--basically any of the conditions/creeds/races persecuted in Hitler's Final Solution, you have no reason to be as jumpy as me. If you are one of those (e.g.: the second to last), and don't (or are unable to) care, that's your prerogative.

As to your deflated analogy: I'd like to meet someone who can haphazardly transform a wave into a heil.

[Stijn]

ewww i'm out of popcorn