Legion: Nazi Symbolism - Page 3

kacklon · 13-04-2006, 23:09

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Originally Posted by Gravitas

Warped would be if I thought your guild symbol was identifiable with the M-Arch, and that you're all proponents of fatty foods, globalism, and runaway capitalism.

Please, have you and your friends elaborate exactly how my perception of reality is warped.

Omg. Please go away.

Stijn · 13-04-2006, 23:11

Rascal even fought in WW2,
True story!
for the allied forces that is :o

Tobler · 13-04-2006, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Stijn

Rascal even fought in WW2,
True story!
for the allied forces that is :o

oi!

Agamemnon · 13-04-2006, 23:12

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Originally Posted by Gravitas

Please, have you and your friends elaborate exactly how my perception of reality is warped.

How about the fact that out of a rather large amount of symbols, you chose the only one you actually knew had had one meaning you didn't like, and then elaborated this point by inventing false links to the SS in our name. I would at best have called your theory here an uneducated guess at first, but the fact that you still don't get it, means that you are impressively stupid and stubborn to boot.

Gravitas · 13-04-2006, 23:16

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

How about the fact that out of a rather large amount of symbols, you chose the only one you actually knew had had one meaning you didn't like, and then elaborated this point by inventing false links to the SS in our name. I would at best have called your theory here an uneducated guess at first, but the fact that you still don't get it, means that you are impressively stupid and stubborn to boot.

I made no false link. I was asking if there was such a link. There's a difference between statement and query. I was very careful to make this distinction in my first post. Sadly, there's always a few sitting around waiting to baselessly justify their superiority by labeling others as stupid.

And what thread have you been reading? I've acknowledged what many of you have clarified for me, that your symbol is indeed derived from ancient Rome. I only say that regardless of intent, one has always to be aware of the multiple connotations of each symbol, Nazism being one of them for that which you chose.

Agamemnon · 13-04-2006, 23:28

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Originally Posted by Gravitas

I made no false link. I was asking if there was such a link.

If this is how you ask, I wonder what a statement would look like in your mind.

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Originally Posted by Gravitas

along with your official name of Legion (which has its SS connotations)

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And what thread have you been reading? I've acknowledged what many of you have clarified for me, that your symbol is indeed derived from ancient Rome. I only say that regardless of intent, one has always to be aware of the multiple connotations of each symbol, Nazism being on of them for that which you chose.

The fact that we are aware of a connotation is one thing, but when you have a slogan in latin, another slogan with was that of the Roman Legion, and a symbol with a history as that of the Roman Legion, the gathered connotation of this would only be offensive to someone hunting for a reason.
Those who hunt for reasons to take offense will always find them.
You did.

BDB · 14-04-2006, 03:31

WOW Gravitas OR AS I WILL CALL U FROM NOW ON FUCKTARD
WHAT U NEED TO DO IS GO OUT SIDE AND DIG A HOLE PUT YOUR FUCKING HEAD IN THE HOLE FUCKTARD AND FIST YOUR SELF TILL U ONE OF 2 THINGS HAPPEN

u either die which hey thats fucking great for me

or understand that your makeing more of an ass out of your self by posting this shit then fisting your self

either way fuck off and die slow and plz plz plz dont have fucking kids u dumb twat cumlicking fucktard

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Toxi · 14-04-2006, 03:48

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Best reply ever.

Rids · 14-04-2006, 08:17

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Originally Posted by BDB

WOW Gravitas OR AS I WILL CALL U FROM NOW ON FUCKTARD
WHAT U NEED TO DO IS GO OUT SIDE AND DIG A HOLE PUT YOUR FUCKING HEAD IN THE HOLE FUCKTARD AND FIST YOUR SELF TILL U ONE OF 2 THINGS HAPPEN

u either die which hey thats fucking great for me

or understand that your makeing more of an ass out of your self by posting this shit then fisting your self

either way fuck off and die slow and plz plz plz dont have fucking kids u dumb twat cumlicking fucktard

l

I love you bob.

Venethor · 13-04-2006, 23:00

That we are a french RP guild?

EDIT: What we find out when we're in the inner circle...

Waywatcher · 13-04-2006, 23:02

The Nazi party borrowed a lot of symbolism from ancient history. In fact, the swastika itself is derived from an ancient symbol for good luck (4 "L's" bound together to mean "Luck," "Life," "Love," and "Light."

The cross on the Legion banner - as well as practically every thematic device we use, from our banner motifs to our motto ("Victuri te Salutant" - Latin for "We, who are about to succeed, salute you;" a more positive take on the old gladiator adage) - are derived from the ancient Roman empire.

I think more people took offense to the fact that you actually thought that any large modern organization of people in as mainstream a medium as a video game could actually form a guild based on National Socialism or what the party stood for.

Regardless, let's consider any such misinterpretation dispelled now.

We apologize for our overreaction. We will not, however, apologize for our being offended by your very question.

Please take care.

The watcher.

Uuisa · 13-04-2006, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Waywatcher

The Nazi party borrowed a lot of symbolism from ancient history. In fact, the swastika itself is derived from an ancient symbol for good luck (4 "L's" bound together to mean "Luck," "Life," "Love," and "Light."
The watcher.

Pfft someone always beats me to posting the only thing I ever have to say! Thx WW!

And seriously...why is everyone so mad? It was only a question...yes a stupid one but still heh.

sLak · 14-04-2006, 06:38

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Originally Posted by Waywatcher

The Nazi party borrowed a lot of symbolism from ancient history. In fact, the swastika itself is derived from an ancient symbol for good luck (4 "L's" bound together to mean "Luck," "Life," "Love," and "Light."

I do not know if the 4 L thing is correct as its derived from a sanskrit word. It is an ancient vedic symbol used in Hindoism, Budhism and Jainism (dharma). It does however stand for or mean good luck, prosperity.

Imsdal · 13-04-2006, 23:02

We are all lil hobby nazi's, and we're playing WoW to spread our propaganda in sekrit, that way we can take over the world in 50 years time!

PS: Please don't tell anyone

Benjy · 13-04-2006, 23:06

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Originally Posted by Imsdal

We are all lil hobby nazi's, and we're playing WoW to spread our propaganda in sekrit, that way we can take over the world in 50 years time!

PS: Please don't tell anyone

Quiet Gunter!

Tiddy · 13-04-2006, 23:06

Well I know some ppl that always chose the Axis team in ET... maybe you're on to something heh.

Imsdal · 13-04-2006, 23:10

no please stay, this is more entertaining than the lag in bwl

Waywatcher · 13-04-2006, 23:11

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Warped would be if I thought your guild symbol was identifiable with the M-Arch, and that you're all proponents of fatty foods, globalism, and runaway capitalism.

Please, have you and your friends elaborate exactly how my perception of reality is warped.

I think immediately associating a symbol currently utilized by a half dozen governments (including your democratic neighbors to the south) with the Nazi party is fairly warped. You couched this assumption in the form of a query when most people, I believe, could immediately have realized the real theme of our guild.

It seems to me you either willfully sought to create drama here, or your pre-cognitive impulses (associating icons with meaning) are, indeed, "warped."

The watcher.